"zander" (they/them) talks to The Universe in the form of "Matthew/Pavan Das" (he/him). After diving in through Pav's entry to the world of the spirit, we explore the practice of kirtan, shifting the culture from God as judger to lover, the non-dual space within our practice of self-love, serving Ram Dass, the new arena that opened after his body's departure, and desire being another side of intention.

Pavan das made this sweet and silly video of Dassi Ma and Rita Green, two esteemed elders on the path of love, discuss how to make chai Maui style!